How do YOU listen to AM?

[Yesspaz]

Vista, Winamp

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Originally Posted by Yesspaz

Vista, Winamp

Damn, Spaz, I'm sorry to hear that.

I listen to AM the same way now that I did when I first found this besainted site oh so long ago: Mac running some flavor of OSX via iTunes. At one point, for one miserable afternoon, I was forced, at gunpoint no less(*), to listen to The Moon on an XP system with Winamp. No matter how much we diddled with it, the 128k stream sounded much like the 56k stream. My friend didn't believe that it sounded better on a Mac. I brought my leeeetle laptop over, plugged his speakers in, and queued up a nice long tune (Pär Lindh Project/Mondus Incomprehensidus, or whatever it's called) and did a nice side-by-side comparison.

I'm proud to say that I was actually able to convince him that the Mac sounded superior. He didn't convert (no surprise, as he codes Flash(**) and ColdFusion(***) for a living), but I managed to plant enough doubt in his mind that he's actually considering it as an alternative.

(*) OK, so it was a staple gun and I was helping a friend install some wiring. Work with me here.

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[progdirjim(Admin)]

Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

You mean you don't have the iSpew Screen for your monitor? I think they have them in coffee, Coca Cola, Milk and Guinness.

[lotus]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing ) to test them..

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by lotus

Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing ) to test them..

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

[lotus]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

I am listenig with WinAmp, free software, which does not force you to use Quicktime (a 40 Megabyte bomb) to do the setttings..

iTunes just wants you to buy music crap from their site..

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

The ipod is NOT revolutionary. My 1st mp3 player was an Archos, at a time when there WASN'T an ipod. It was primitive, sure, but it was innovative. When I showed it to people, their jaws dropped (this is, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago). It survived a drop on concrete at 20+ mph, for a few weeks before it died. The hardware was pretty solid.

My 2nd mp3 player was a Creative Nomad. At that time, the 40GB Nomad was $100 cheaper than the 20GB ipod. Now that I've used both, I have to say that the Creative software is WAY better than itunes, and the user interface is WAY better than the ipod. The ipod is a decent product, and has two major advantages: the size factor (nice and small) and the capacity (160GB). The only reason I bought the ipod is that my 40GB Creative was full and I didn't want to delete anything.

As I said, the ipod is a decent product, but I'm tired of people worshiping Apple without holding them accountable.

I wasn't joking when I complained about itunes. It doesn't even understand filing solo artists under their last name. David Bowie is filed under "D"??! LAME!! Try loading album artwork if you have Bowie, David. itunes can't find it.

Oh yeah, and the ipod, when you're scrolling (with that stupid touch wheel), and you get to "Z", what happens? Duh, you have to go backwards all the way to "A" instead of wrapping around to "A" like the Creative. Yuk.

I was editing this post, adding info about the weak connector on the bottom of the ipod (PM me if you want details), and Firefox crashed. Hmmm. Sounds like $teve Job'$ version of e$tabli$hing a monopoly.

While I'm ranting, anytime you're in itune$, they're trying to $ell you mu$ic.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

The ipod is NOT revolutionary. My 1st mp3 player was an Archos, at a time when there WASN'T an ipod. It was primitive, sure, but it was innovative. When I showed it to people, their jaws dropped (this is, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago). It survived a drop on concrete at 20+ mph, for a few weeks before it died. The hardware was pretty solid.

I never said it was. I was referring to the Zune. A late comer to the market and it offers nothing new; in fact, it's more limited than many of its competitors.

Originally Posted by progdirjim

My 2nd mp3 player was a Creative Nomad. At that time, the 40GB Nomad was $100 cheaper than the 20GB ipod. Now that I've used both, I have to say that the Creative software is WAY better than itunes, and the user interface is WAY better than the ipod. The ipod is a decent product, and has two major advantages: the size factor (nice and small) and the capacity (160GB). The only reason I bought the ipod is that my 40GB Creative was full and I didn't want to delete anything.

The difference has always been the size. The 2.5" form factor drives are cheap because they are also used in laptops. The 1.8" ff drives cost more and thus, the devices using them cost more.

Originally Posted by progdirjim

I wasn't joking when I complained about itunes. It doesn't even understand filing solo artists under their last name. David Bowie is filed under "D"??! LAME!! Try loading album artwork if you have Bowie, David. itunes can't find it.

Neither do the sites we link with for bands. THe CDDB doesn't either. I wonder what your other software does with Jethro Tull or Timothy Pure or Pink Floyd... Floyd, Pink? What do you file 5UUs under?

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Oh yeah, and the ipod, when you're scrolling (with that stupid touch wheel), and you get to "Z", what happens? Duh, you have to go backwards all the way to "A" instead of wrapping around to "A" like the Creative. Yuk.

That doesn't bother me as much as not being able to scroll through an alphabetical heading (A-Z) and then drill down. With hundreds of artists, it is difficult to scroll to one quickly.

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I was editing this post, adding info about the weak connector on the bottom of the ipod (PM me if you want details), and Firefox crashed. Hmmm. Sounds like $teve Job'$ version of e$tabli$hing a monopoly.
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Apple now owns Firefox?

Originally Posted by progdirjim

While I'm ranting, anytime you're in itune$, they're trying to $ell you mu$ic.

I'm in iTunes all day long. I've never ONCE gotten an add for music purchases. In fact, I don't even have a link to the iTunes Store in my iTunes! You can turn it off you know... don't you?