How do YOU listen to AM?

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Damn it, Jim. At least put a Warning: Humor notice on your posts when you do that. I spewed the Guinness I had in my mouth on my monitor.

You mean you don't have the iSpew Screen for your monitor? I think they have them in coffee, Coca Cola, Milk and Guinness.

[lotus]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Windows XP and Real Player. (iTunes is a crappy piece of software. If the ipod didn't have a 160GB device, I wouldn't even deal with it.)

Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing ) to test them..

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by lotus

Well Jim, according to Vax (and 90 % of the listeners) your post is a sacrilege..

But I agree 100%. iTunes is crap..The only good thing on it is that it synchronize well with the iPod..And on the iPod I can only comment good things..

Vax, you cannot comment on other players as they are Windows based, and you cannot (or are not willing ) to test them..

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

[lotus]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

I am listenig with WinAmp, free software, which does not force you to use Quicktime (a 40 Megabyte bomb) to do the setttings..

iTunes just wants you to buy music crap from their site..

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by OverHillandDale

You know you can sync your iPod from Real Player. You don't have to use iTunes to do so.

How? Talking about crap software, REAL is REAL CRAP!

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Well, there was an Archos MP3 play here at one time. A complete piece of shit and the software -- well, weendoze only based -- was just as crappy.

Zune has become a non-product. Why? M$ couldn't do anything revolutionary that would have it compete with the iPod.

The ipod is NOT revolutionary. My 1st mp3 player was an Archos, at a time when there WASN'T an ipod. It was primitive, sure, but it was innovative. When I showed it to people, their jaws dropped (this is, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago). It survived a drop on concrete at 20+ mph, for a few weeks before it died. The hardware was pretty solid.

My 2nd mp3 player was a Creative Nomad. At that time, the 40GB Nomad was $100 cheaper than the 20GB ipod. Now that I've used both, I have to say that the Creative software is WAY better than itunes, and the user interface is WAY better than the ipod. The ipod is a decent product, and has two major advantages: the size factor (nice and small) and the capacity (160GB). The only reason I bought the ipod is that my 40GB Creative was full and I didn't want to delete anything.

As I said, the ipod is a decent product, but I'm tired of people worshiping Apple without holding them accountable.

I wasn't joking when I complained about itunes. It doesn't even understand filing solo artists under their last name. David Bowie is filed under "D"??! LAME!! Try loading album artwork if you have Bowie, David. itunes can't find it.

Oh yeah, and the ipod, when you're scrolling (with that stupid touch wheel), and you get to "Z", what happens? Duh, you have to go backwards all the way to "A" instead of wrapping around to "A" like the Creative. Yuk.

I was editing this post, adding info about the weak connector on the bottom of the ipod (PM me if you want details), and Firefox crashed. Hmmm. Sounds like $teve Job'$ version of e$tabli$hing a monopoly.

While I'm ranting, anytime you're in itune$, they're trying to $ell you mu$ic.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

The ipod is NOT revolutionary. My 1st mp3 player was an Archos, at a time when there WASN'T an ipod. It was primitive, sure, but it was innovative. When I showed it to people, their jaws dropped (this is, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago). It survived a drop on concrete at 20+ mph, for a few weeks before it died. The hardware was pretty solid.

I never said it was. I was referring to the Zune. A late comer to the market and it offers nothing new; in fact, it's more limited than many of its competitors.

Originally Posted by progdirjim

My 2nd mp3 player was a Creative Nomad. At that time, the 40GB Nomad was $100 cheaper than the 20GB ipod. Now that I've used both, I have to say that the Creative software is WAY better than itunes, and the user interface is WAY better than the ipod. The ipod is a decent product, and has two major advantages: the size factor (nice and small) and the capacity (160GB). The only reason I bought the ipod is that my 40GB Creative was full and I didn't want to delete anything.

The difference has always been the size. The 2.5" form factor drives are cheap because they are also used in laptops. The 1.8" ff drives cost more and thus, the devices using them cost more.

Originally Posted by progdirjim

I wasn't joking when I complained about itunes. It doesn't even understand filing solo artists under their last name. David Bowie is filed under "D"??! LAME!! Try loading album artwork if you have Bowie, David. itunes can't find it.

Neither do the sites we link with for bands. THe CDDB doesn't either. I wonder what your other software does with Jethro Tull or Timothy Pure or Pink Floyd... Floyd, Pink? What do you file 5UUs under?

Originally Posted by progdirjim

Oh yeah, and the ipod, when you're scrolling (with that stupid touch wheel), and you get to "Z", what happens? Duh, you have to go backwards all the way to "A" instead of wrapping around to "A" like the Creative. Yuk.

That doesn't bother me as much as not being able to scroll through an alphabetical heading (A-Z) and then drill down. With hundreds of artists, it is difficult to scroll to one quickly.

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I was editing this post, adding info about the weak connector on the bottom of the ipod (PM me if you want details), and Firefox crashed. Hmmm. Sounds like $teve Job'$ version of e$tabli$hing a monopoly.
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Apple now owns Firefox?

Originally Posted by progdirjim

While I'm ranting, anytime you're in itune$, they're trying to $ell you mu$ic.

I'm in iTunes all day long. I've never ONCE gotten an add for music purchases. In fact, I don't even have a link to the iTunes Store in my iTunes! You can turn it off you know... don't you?

[VAXman(Admin)]

Somebody posted this for me on the Marillion on-line forum and I thought I'd share it here.

Redmond, Seattle. A screen saver of a roaring log fire flickers on a huge LCD monitor perched on a wide expanse of mahogany desk. Bathed in its glow, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and his PA, Atkins, are drinking eggnog - whatever eggnog is, Americans always seem to drink it at Christmas.

"Hell of a year!"
"Hell of a year, sir!"
"And all the big news happened in January, didn't it?"
"Er, yes sir."
"Windows Vista launches, The 'big wow'."
"Oh... I see sir, yes sir."
"You say 'yes, sir' as if you mean 'no sir'?"
"No sir,"
"Are you sure?"
"Yes, sir."
"Goddamit. Why don't people like Vista? What was wrong with the big wow?"
"Nothing sir, it's just not quite the wow effect we were after."
"And what are we doing about that? Was there a problem with the marketing? I spent a fortune on it."
"No sir, it was more a problem with the product. It didn't quite live up to the 'wow' expectations."
"But it looks like Mac OS X, comes in six versions and it's about to get a service pack. What more do people want? Are we planning a new ad campaign?"
"No sir. The old one was fine. We didn't have time to make any significant improvements to the software so we've just decided to redefine the industry standard of 'wow'."
"Good thinking."
"Yes, sir. Our lawyers have been busy since February. I'm happy to say it's been successfully redefined, sir."
"Excellent, what does 'wow' mean now?"
"More like 'Hmm'."
"The big 'Hmm'. I like it. Has it had any effect on sales?"
"No."
"Hmm."
"That's the spirit, sir."

[progdirjim(Admin)]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Apple now owns Firefox?

I was (tongue in cheek) implying that Apple was monitoring my post and crashed my browser to prevent a negative post.

Originally Posted by VAXman

I'm in iTunes all day long. I've never ONCE gotten an add for music purchases. In fact, I don't even have a link to the iTunes Store in my iTunes! You can turn it off you know... don't you?

Well no, I don't. I wouldn't have bitched about it if I knew that. It's certainly possible that I'll like itunes better as I become more familiar with it. The Creative software was so damn intuitive (at least for me, and I know that can be subjective) though.

I like the ipod OK, and it does have some advantages, but I get really weary of the "Apple good, everything else bad" preaching that goes on pretty much every day. I'm no particular fan of Microsoft, but can we just stipulate that you (and quite a few others) hate them a lot, their software is bloated, and their management are boneheads to a man, and not talk about it every day? Please?

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

I'm no particular fan of Microsoft, but can we just stipulate that you (and quite a few others) hate them a lot, their software is bloated, and their management are boneheads to a man, and not talk about it every day? Please?

What would there be to talk about then? (Seriously, thank you for articulating that Jim)

This verbal masturbation about how one sound system is better/worse than the other is the highlight of my day!

I have friends who hate Microsoft too. I just smile and turn the other cheek.

I only use itunes to convert music to mp3. As Dale says, you can use Real Player instead for the ipod. You can use anything for most things really. And you know what? It's all free. So I can't complain.

WMP works just fine to hear AM. So does itunes or Winamp.

As for the ipod, I have no need or want for one. I'm too busy, and I have all the music I need. If there were no more recordings I would be set for life. I just buy because I care. Shit, I can't even file my music in a decent amount of time anymore. It's hard enough just to get back to the kind artists who send or turn me on to music. My one kid has his ipod implanted in his ear. My head would explode if I had to put my music on the computer to put it on something else.

It's just not that important to me to have a portable music device like an ipod. Great idea if you like it though, it's a cool thing. But I'm never in one place long enough to enjoy it.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by progdirjim

I like the ipod OK, and it does have some advantages, but I get really weary of the "Apple good, everything else bad" preaching that goes on pretty much every day. I'm no particular fan of Microsoft, but can we just stipulate that you (and quite a few others) hate them a lot, their software is bloated, and their management are boneheads to a man, and not talk about it every day? Please?

Well, it's all commodity market crap. I just weighed the pile of malodorous sweat socks against the buckets of fetid noxious shit and I choose the former as the least olfactory offensive.

As a VMS bigot, we used to have a saying: unix isn't all that bad once you get used to its smell. I'll take the unix based OS X over that montage of hacked-up shite known as Weendoze any day.