Aural Moon unlistenable

[sharcnorris]

Sun Ra, GYBE, are few examples of the reason this thread is here. Noise is not music and to waste airtime on the Long efforts of these types of "artists" drives fans away. This is not a new position from me. Hey guess what, Sometimes it is unlistenable.
Now I need a thread about how great the Moon is, That I could write a book about. Im greatly dissapointed when a 20 min. noise piece comes up. Its because the Moon has so many jewels not playing then

[progzealot]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

Sun Ra, GYBE, are few examples of the reason this thread is here. Noise is not music and to waste airtime on the Long efforts of these types of "artists" drives fans away. This is not a new position from me. Hey guess what, Sometimes it is unlistenable.

Don't forget that Chicago--Free Form Guitar thing.

[sharcnorris]

Originally Posted by progzealot

Don't forget that Chicago--Free Form Guitar thing.

ahhhh, Magma ,Can, Popo Vah, Even a droning Miles. Not my Music but music just the same, I think this is about out right noise......

[schupdoggy]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

ahhhh, Magma ,Can, Popo Vah, Even a droning Miles. Not my Music but music just the same, I think this is about out right noise......

I like some of the (noise) bands and some I don't like.
A few I like are...

Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Don Caballero
Sigur Ros
Explosions In The Sky
A Silver Mt. Zion
Appleseed Cast
Mogwai
Tangerine Dream
Brian Eno
Klaus Schulze
Kraftwerk
Henry Cow
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Samla Mammas Manna
Universe Zero
Alamaailman Vasarat
Mr. Bungle
Guapo
Mats/Morgan Band
Faust
Art Zoyd
Art Bears

[schupdoggy]

Oh yeah, I forgot the great FRANK ZAPPA!
some consider him noise

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally Posted by schupdoggy

I like some of the (noise) bands and some I don't like.
A few I like are...

Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Don Caballero
Sigur Ros
Explosions In The Sky
A Silver Mt. Zion
Appleseed Cast
Mogwai

Hey Spaz, stop logging in with schupdoggy's account!

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by VAXman

Hey Spaz, stop logging in with schupdoggy's account!

I was just about to quote his post and claim (either for praise or derision) just how many of those were donated by me!

[sharcnorris]

Originally Posted by schupdoggy

I like some of the (noise) bands and some I don't like.
A few I like are...

Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Don Caballero
Sigur Ros
Explosions In The Sky
A Silver Mt. Zion
Appleseed Cast
Mogwai
new add... Can
new add... Magma
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
Samla Mammas Manna
Universe Zero
Alamaailman Vasarat
Mr. Bungle
New add... Tarental
Mats/Morgan Band
Faust
Art Zoyd
Art Bears
new add... anything donated by Yesspaz, especially Miles

Thanks Shuppy, add Tarentel, Sun Ra, and Magma and this is a great List of Noise I would remove from the Moons playlist... Thank again

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

Thanks Shuppy, add Tarentel, Sun Ra, and Magma and this is a great List of Noise I would remove from the Moons playlist... Thank again

Well, we'll never define prog, but would someone define "Noise" for me? It seems like the running definition being used by some people here is "things I don't like." The term "noisy" may be more appropriate when discussing Sun Ra or Magma, but not "noise." (Without referring to a dictionary) Noise is non-repetitive, non-melodic, non-sensical, non-harmonic. In other words, there's no overlying or underlying meaning behind the arrangement of the sounds heard. This cannot be said of ANY of the artists listed.

There are quite a few artists out there who've purposefully written pretty music and then put noise on top of it. There are bands who's chosen chords and harmony are extremely dissonant. There are artists who's improvisational nature means at times the piece is barely holding together. None of this constitutes noise. If so, then while removing fusion Miles, we should remove the much more cacophonic improvs from 70s King Crimson. They're much more "challenging" and "noisy." at times.



Define noise. Something you don't like, or something that actually is not music?

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

Sun Ra, GYBE, are few examples of the reason this thread is here. Noise is not music and to waste airtime on the Long efforts of these types of "artists" drives fans away. This is not a new position from me. Hey guess what, Sometimes it is unlistenable.
Now I need a thread about how great the Moon is, That I could write a book about. Im greatly dissapointed when a 20 min. noise piece comes up. Its because the Moon has so many jewels not playing then

So, did you write the original post?

[lotus]

Originally Posted by sharcnorris

Sun Ra, GYBE, are few examples of the reason this thread is here. Noise is not music and to waste airtime on the Long efforts of these types of "artists" drives fans away. This is not a new position from me. Hey guess what, Sometimes it is unlistenable.
Now I need a thread about how great the Moon is, That I could write a book about. Im greatly dissapointed when a 20 min. noise piece comes up. Its because the Moon has so many jewels not playing then

Basically I agree with Sharc, but "progressive rock" has never been defined officially, there are on the different wikis the different definitions, being one not alike the other.

I support Jim's politic to have a wide range of what is prog, leaving space for New Age, Jazz, "Noise" etc..This opens the horizont to all AM listeners, so that we can qualify personally the tunes from "Must Have" to "unlistenable".

Due to many new additions, which are within this wide range and they got played by SAM and requested more frequently (we want to hear new things), in the last time we sometimes have one 30 min "noise" tune after the other (please understand this as my personal and private ranking) and not one Genesis followed by a PF and then by Supertramp.

So, I personally give a sh*t on that post. I think we know what we have here on the Moon: The classics and really new stuff, which we like or not. And we have here the ppl online to discuss the music in shout, which is the salt in the soup!!

[gr8sho92]

Although I haven't had time to join in Shout recently, I have AM playing in the background every day. I really dig Jim's record collection.

[Bmithra]

Originally Posted by gr8sho92

Although I haven't had time to join in Shout recently, I have AM playing in the background every day. I really dig Jim's record collection.

I agree with you gr8sho92. Jim must have one of the best record collections on the planet.

Bmithra