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Old 11-05-2007, 10:35 AM
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Re: Early Chicago

And the IVth one is the live at Carnegie Hall album. It's almost like you put a bracket around the 1970-1972 time and grab everything you can (well almost). I consider myself a big Chicago fan for their entire recording history. I may be delusional, but I'm sure I've heard tracks from CTA on here but I can't figure out where in the library it's stored.

I think the trouble I have with Chicago is the notion of horns being a cornerstone instrument for the band that's performing. Not something I typically associate with prog.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:10 AM
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I think the trouble I have with Chicago is the notion of horns being a cornerstone instrument for the band that's performing. Not something I typically associate with prog.
Nor violin, accordion, bassoon, hurdy gurdy, bagpipes... I've heard them all & more, maybe not as cornerstones to a band, but certainly key in songs.

IMNSHO, Chicago - although "instrumental" in my music underpinnings & still a favorite - just misses the prog genre.
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Nor violin, accordion, bassoon, hurdy gurdy, bagpipes... I've heard them all & more, maybe not as cornerstones to a band, but certainly key in songs.

IMNSHO, Chicago - although "instrumental" in my music underpinnings & still a favorite - just misses the prog genre.
Chicago I-VII are all GREAT. 8 is not great, just ok.

As Star trek movies are mostly good in even numbers, Chicago's are odd.

VII is my favorite, then III.

While the first one is special, it's never been really prog. I did a Chicago show once but i'm not convinced they "belong" here".

What's everyone got against violin as a prog instrument? Kind of weird
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:23 AM
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What's everyone got against violin as a prog instrument? Kind of weird
It's not what comes to my addled brain as a core instrument from prog roots. But after seeing Jean Luc Ponty, Stephen Grappeli, Daryl Anger, Mark O'connor over & over & over to see if I really like violins, I think I do.
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Chicago I-VII are all GREAT. 8 is not great, just ok.

As Star trek movies are mostly good in even numbers, Chicago's are odd.

VII is my favorite, then III.

While the first one is special, it's never been really prog. I did a Chicago show once but i'm not convinced they "belong" here".

What's everyone got against violin as a prog instrument? Kind of weird
Not so fast kimosabe. Being very very partial to italian symphonic sub-genre of prog, violin is a very important instrument, so I feel this one definitely belongs in the club. And to be more specific, Mauro Pagani and Lucio Fabbri, both of PFM, are tremendous talents and contributors to prog.

On Chicago, VIII was my first purchase. I actually like this album a lot. This was the next to last studio album with legendary guitarist Terry Kath and some good stuff on there, although not as poppy as some other Chicago albums.
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Re: Early Chicago

To my ears they aren't something I would want to listen to when I listen to the Moon. There are so many tweeners who fall somewhere between the Moon and somewhere else. I've nothing against Chicago at all, even went to see them, but I'm not sure of the Moon Appeal...

I think Rick's done a Chicago show in the past. To me, the tweeners etc are better suited to shows than to a permanent place in the queue.
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OverHillandDale, I support your asumption that early Chicago would be out of the AM box. They were a big part of my formative muisical years, especially the first album. "Introduction" is still a good listen for me, along with most of CTA.
My high school "senior song" is OLD DAYS (voted by the calss), but that's not early Chicago. And my wife and I consider Colour My World as "our song", because we always slow-danced to it in school. 25 or 6 to 4, and Questions 67 and 68 were verry popular anthems back in the day. Those three songs wore out my cassette player - or was it 8-track?

Some of the edgier stuff was a bit ahead of it's time, but probably doesn't belong on the Moon.
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Re: Early Chicago

On the other hand, Queen is on the moon. Queen's second album, although containing some semi-prog elements, is basically a straightforward 4/4 time signature for most of the album, and is a good rock album. Ahead of it's time possibly, and a major influence on my musical tastes. Does it belong on the Moon? I wouldn't want it taken off. Can someone assert why it is here, but not early Chicago? The England factor? The dramatics of Fredie Mercury? The edgy lyrics, and very stylized themes? Who knows. I still would not vote for Chicago to be here. BTW, the Fairy Feller's Master Stroke is genius, IMHO.
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