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Originally posted by JRV


Many are bullied into not speaking out at all by the aforementionned mudslinging. I've personally been guilty of that. I wanted to post that Goering quote from the start, but didn't want to get in the middle of it. But our politicians have also been bullied into silence: The Democratic party has moved to the center where it's safe.

Yes, unfortunately I think we just have to attribute that to being human. Most people have a hard time seperating their ideaology from who they are. So, any attack on their beliefs is a personal attack.

Hell, I feel the same way when someone bad-bouths Zappa or Crimson . . .

Personally, I'm somewhere right of the middle (politically).

The war itself is necessary. It was probably rushed but still justified. A conflict in the middle east was unavoidable (regardless of who's involved). There's been too much ethnic in-fighting and global terrorism for this to ever be resolved by anything other than a direct conflict. Unfortunately, the UN is too slow to directly solve this and too indirect to ever fully decide on an adequate solution. The UN's version of anything other than humanitarian aid is just insulting, full of meaningless threats that dictators can just laugh at.

It seems surprising that more humanitarian groups haven't spoken out about the insanity that has gone on in Iraq and their neighbors. Maybe it's just assumed that everyone knows of the problems in the Middle East.

The above cop vs. bully analogy is pretty pretty close but leaves out the inner conflict of the "bully". It would be much closer if maybe it was on a corporate level, instead of just individuals (i.e. auditors vs. enron). There's more to this than just us vs. them. There's also the internal situation to consider.

If you're able to look at both sides of the argument here, I don't think either one has managed to be fully objective. Of course, there's no argument if everyone can see both sides.

Tommy