Is it time for Aural Moon to expand??

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Originally posted by kirk
new orleans is semi-stable, i think we can get back to this.

semi stable for New Orleans. This, of course, is a very flexible concept.

vax- you know quite a few industry folk, any help on contributors?
(dotman says he'll buy you a brewery if
you get marillion involved).

And I mean it, too.

dot- i'm having ken fields send the autographed BOTM cd
to you, o.k.?

That's just dandy. I'll keep 'em safe until sold.

we're going to need someone to take the design to
kinkos, have them print the insert, then cut and fold,
insert into jewels.

I have three kids. I'm sure one of them can handle a pair of scissors with the minimum of hassle and bloodshed.

i'm guessing we can do this for around $2.50-3.00
per unit. i can probably twist pacific studios arm for
blank cd on disc printing for a reduced rate if you want to go
that route. it's a little nicer presentation.

Perhaps. It all depends on the cost, of course.

some of the names i've considered are:
(all w/ the subtitle "an artist tribute to aural moon")
HELIX (alt. "THE HELIX PROJECT")
RING AROUND THE MOON
MOONROCKS...
opinions?

You do good artwork. A lot better than I could.

Roger -Dot- Lee

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by kirk
new orleans is semi-stable, i think we can get back to this.

vax- you know quite a few industry folk, any help on contributors?
(dotman says he'll buy you a brewery if
you get marillion involved).

Marillion? Who are they?

Actually, I'm going to get the pre-order Marbles CD and have them sign it(It's a beautiful package with a 140 page booklet). Also, Pete says he owes me a few favors, so let's see if I can call one in.

Originally posted by kirk
we're going to need someone to take the design to
kinkos, have them print the insert, then cut and fold,
insert into jewels.

I have a special roller cutter that can be set up with sizing gauges to quickly and accurately cut such things (It's really for photo cutting). I also have a CD/DVD printer so if these CDs are burned on printable media, I could print them.

i'm guessing we can do this for around $2.50-3.00
per unit. i can probably twist pacific studios arm for
blank cd on disc printing for a reduced rate if you want to go
that route. it's a little nicer presentation.

[kirk]

vax- that's fantastic! you da man!!

you can do these "on demand", not have to stockpile.

i can send you a black version of whatever name/logo we
settle on to print ondisk, along w/ track listing.

i'll lay the cover out w/ discmakers templates.

k

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by kirk
vax- that's fantastic! you da man!!

you can do these "on demand", not have to stockpile.

i can send you a black version of whatever name/logo we
settle on to print ondisk, along w/ track listing.

i'll lay the cover out w/ discmakers templates.

k

On demand... sure.

Are they to be regular CDs? Not much fits on one. If we get too much, we may need to go the MP3 route... or have multiple editions. More money could be raised going with the later I would think.

[Avian]

The reality of the situation with us is this:

If AM adds 50 listener slots, people would fill those listener slots, and we'd bein the same position we're in now with the station being full.

If we added 100 listener slots, people would fill those listener slots, and we'd bein the same position we're in now with the station being full.

You get the idea. Because we're on Itunes, we would fill up as many listener slots as we woud provide.

Going to 80k would increase costs a lot. Adding a few more slots, depending on how much might be feasible because it wouldn't cost as much, but would add a monthly cost burden to Jim. It just creeps up and up and up.

Jim, Roger and I are looking at a few things in the future to help reduce costs, like getting a better bandwidth deal, and like Roger mentioned, moving the webserver with VAX's help.

What woud REALLY help is for people to donate _some_ bandwidth. The shoutcast application takes up almost no CPU or memory - if anyone has a machine on a T1, and could spare, say 25 56k slots, then that would help. And if we could work out a deal with a few people like that, it would really add up to make a difference. A good amount of internet radio stations work on this model. We just need to put the word out.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by Avian
The reality of the situation with us is this:

If AM adds 50 listener slots, people would fill those listener slots, and we'd bein the same position we're in now with the station being full.

If we added 100 listener slots, people would fill those listener slots, and we'd bein the same position we're in now with the station being full.

You get the idea. Because we're on Itunes, we would fill up as many listener slots as we woud provide.

That's understood. However, more listeners might lend to more money. Not likely enough to maintain perpetual growth but maybe enough for an occasional growth spurt.

Originally posted by Avian
Going to 80k would increase costs a lot. Adding a few more slots, depending on how much might be feasible because it wouldn't cost as much, but would add a monthly cost burden to Jim. It just creeps up and up and up.

I think 56K slots are fine.

Originally posted by Avian
What woud REALLY help is for people to donate _some_ bandwidth. The shoutcast application takes up almost no CPU or memory - if anyone has a machine on a T1, and could spare, say 25 56k slots, then that would help. And if we could work out a deal with a few people like that, it would really add up to make a difference. A good amount of internet radio stations work on this model. We just need to put the word out.

Well, I have a T1 which is being donated for the web site as well as server for the web server.

However, a T1 (DS1) is the equivalent of 24 64K bidirectional channels. 25 slots would quickly saturate a T1.

[Wojtek]

I can do the cover if I get information about resolution of such images. I like doing covers for fun.

And if someone has good free Moon image it would be good to receive.

And I can talk with Polish bands like Quidam, Riverside or Sattellite about their contribution.

[VAXman(Admin)]

Originally posted by Wojtek

And if someone has good free Moon image it would be good to receive.

Free moon image?

There's a moon in my evening sky that's free to image as far as I know!

[Wojtek]

Vax, if I can help (I don't know, if Kirk was just trying with his image or he is chosen to do cover) make nice photo of the Moon and send it to me. Thanks

[Rick and Roll]

Originally posted by Wojtek
Vax, if I can help (I don't know, if Kirk was just trying with his image or he is chosen to do cover) make nice photo of the Moon and send it to me. Thanks

Woj be careful that vax doesn't send you a picture of a Moon that's a bit different than our cosmic friend!

[Wojtek]

Rick, you mean pornstar Sophie Moon?

[kirk]

woj- thanks man!
i have it covered...so to speak
i'm laying this out to the diskmakers template,
which requires some knowledge of the graphic arts,
the printing process. everything has to be aligned
to exact specs.

i have several variations of the cover w/
the names i suggested.
i'm just waiting on some feedback to proceed,
refine the concept.

actually, most space shots are the property of
the photographer, copyrighted material.
you can't say, scour the internet for a photo,
use it w/o clearance.

[Wojtek]

OK Kirk

If you're posting this all let me comment. Starting point is good but how about making this more calm and 'poetic' by smaller pallette of colours in the text.

I don't want to 'gatecrash' into your imagination and artistic vision. Just small comments

Here is rough version of what I suggest. We can't use this image but creating it I wanted to show and suggest more subdued text.

[Wojtek]

Ah and one more thing. I contacted Quidam. They're in with one track form their newest release surREvival.

[Rick and Roll]

that's a damn cool picture.

[kirk]

thanks woj, that's what i was looking for, some feedback.

that is a nice image, but likely using it could get
us sued, unless it's one of yours.
for several reasons, i'd be against going soft on the lettering.


also, everyone please hold off on extending invites
to contribute (not you vax LOL).

i have several feelers out, so far batting 1000.
i'm trying to avoid having to pick and choose, send
"thanks, but...." notes.
that would be, to say the least, embarrasing.
if we have a problem filling the cd, then we'll open it
to suggestions.

on that note, i heard from glass hammer this morning!

k

[Rick and Roll]

Originally posted by kirk
on that note, i heard from glass hammer this morning!

k

did you have too much to drink?

Cool, see if they'll talk to Carl Groves too...

[Wojtek]

Originally posted by kirk
also, everyone please hold off on extending invites
to contribute (not you vax LOL).

i have several feelers out, so far batting 1000.
i'm trying to avoid having to pick and choose, send
"thanks, but...." notes.
that would be, to say the least, embarrasing.
if we have a problem filling the cd, then we'll open it
to suggestions.

on that note, i heard from glass hammer this morning!

k

But then Kirk watch out not to make American prog tribute.

I think the Moonies should consult potential band possibilities to make really nice selection for all. Then I agree that asking band without posting proposition here on the forums may cause problems.

I hope my Quidam stays. I'd rather not send "thanks, but..."

[Rick and Roll]

That band is something!

[Wojtek]

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
That band is something!

I can write them, no problem. So, Kirk, when you give green light I'll send email to Riverside.