Aural Moon unlistenable

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by jrstudioboss

Actually, though I don't agree with how and where he did it, I do agree with his point! I'm finding myself listening to deliciousagony, morow, and pandora a lot more of late because of the increasing amount of jazz fusion that's being played.

Ok. Good. That's why there's more than one prog station on the net. If all five major prog stations are the same, then that is boring. The basic principles of broadcasting apply here, even though AM is narrowcasting. AM, DeliciousAgony, Morow, Pandora, and others must differentiate themselves from each other in the competition for the small audience of internet prog people. ProgDirJim's seemingly chosen the broaden-your-musical-definition-and-horizon niche. Excellent. Jrstudioboss, I don't mean this to sound mean or personal, but if those other stations are more your taste, ok. Go listen to them. That's why more than one station exists. I'm sticking with AM because I prefer loads of variety in my prog. Long jazz fusion, long keyboardy things, long avant-garde post rock, long symphonic prog, and the occasional weird thing back to back to back is why I like it. And I'm sure there are others like me.



PS. There may only seem to be more jazz lately because that's what been added lately, and therefore requested a lot. In another month, PDJ may add fifty prog metal cds, and then a rash of people may complain AM's become too metally. But see, over time, as the recent adds drop out of "newness syndrome," then the library continues to stay balanced.

[Giloeada]

Originally Posted by jrstudioboss

pop, classical, dance, political talk, etc., there are plenty of other places to go for those, and scant few that play the prog which draws us here - please keep the prog pure and leave the other genres to other streams and radio stations.

I am in full agreement with Jim (jrstudioboss).

OHD, everyone's definition of what is prog is different, but a giraffe is not an elephant, and jazz is not prog rock.

I also vote with my mouse by changing streams, but I wish it were not necessary to do so often on the preeminent prog station.

[Borfus]

If I may just add my 2 cents re: "noise" -

I seems to me that, while I don't think this is the appropriate forum to discuss the definition of prog, I think that it is all about expanding the boundaries of musical convention. When Crimso and Yes and Genesis et. al. were first producing their music, it was mostly considered experimental or unusual at the time. Rock-n-roll itself was decried as noise by many during its formative years.

Progressive music is about using different sounds, structures or harmonic situations, and sometimes this requires the use of elements that are conventionally considered noise. Admittedly, much of what I would consider to be "noise music" (e.g. Einsturzende Neubauten) I don't regard as "prog rock," due to the absence of the "rock" element or mood (yet another vague definition here...). Of course, this is just MHO.

As for jazz, I do think of fusion-y groups as being in the prog genre. This is because the reason it was named fusion to begin with was that it was a fusion of rock and jazz. Artists such as Brand X, Jeff Beck, Miles Davis, Mahavishnu, Weather Report, etc. are examples of such, but not necessarily the entire catalog thereof qualifies (Miles is a good example of this since some of his music I think of as more straight, if unusual, jazz).

Again, just my opinion. AM has eschewed some material that I would consider prog rock, but I'm not going to go away just because of that. For the most part, I enjoy the variety of music available on this station, and I commend the administrators of this site for this.

As an aside, I would like to say that there are some artists that I find I don't enjoy (I wont mention them by name because I realize that there are some rabid fans of these groups here and I don't want to start some sort of flame war...), but it's primarily because I find the music to be a little too derivative of other more talented artists, but I listen anyway. Who knows? Perhaps I will grow to like them after all...

Thank you for the music, all, and don't let the bastards get you down!

Borfus Wallaby

www.myspace.com/borfuswallabymusic
www.everydayprophets.com

[Rick and Roll]

Borfus, that was well said...

[kevishev]

Originally Posted by Borfus

Thank you for the music, all, and don't let the bastards get you down!

Borfus Wallaby

Thank you for that sentiment Borfus. I could not have expressed it better myself. It almost sounds like it should be some kind of prog rock mantra.

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by Borfus

Thank you for the music, all, and don't let the bastards get you down![/url]

So, is this a subtle hint that amybe some U2 should get on AM?

Seriously Borfus, your post is excellent. Right on. I dig. Good job. Insert affirmation here.

[OverHillandDale(Admin)]

Thanks Borfus. well said.

[KingRat]

Originally Posted by Borfus

Progressive music is about ....

Thank you for the music,

I know what I like and I get it here.

Thanks to all involved.

PS. Did ABBA not say "Thank you for the music"

[jtmckinley]

Originally Posted by KingRat

I know what I like and I get it here.

I know what I like, in my wardrobe...

[darksideof]

who is this idiot?

[gambale]

I dont follow. What more does he wants? This is actually a vast variaty of the best progressive music produced. If its "decent music" he is after he must seek else where. This station is a bless for my progessive ears. Gambale

[Roger -Dot- Lee(Admin)]

Originally Posted by gambale

I dont follow. What more does he wants? This is actually a vast variaty of the best progressive music produced. If its "decent music" he is after he must seek else where. This station is a bless for my progessive ears. Gambale

He probably wants more Yes, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, and Rush.

Not that there's anything wrong with any of them, but if that's all you want to hear, then I'd suggest loosing your credit card on Amazon and leaving the rest of us in peace.

Just sayin'.

Roger -Dot- Lee, gettin' better, thanks.

[Moonoffruits96]

To say AM is unlistenable is total bull s**t
Those whom don't like leave
Btw we need u2 here

[jrstudioboss]

Before I found AM, I had been listening to radioparadise.com, good music, but a very broad spectrum, depending on who was DJing, and AM was a great change because it was more focused on the genre (and much better music at that). A few songs back, SAM played Wall of Voodoo's "Mexican Radio",WTF! Moono'd like some U2 (sorry to disagree with you little brother), what's next, Sanatra and Culture Club? Just because we individuals like an album and want to donate it, and no matter how great it might be, that doesn't necessarily mean it fits here (maybe I'll donate my Spike Jones and C. W. McCall collections!). I make a living as a sculptor, but I've been known to paint on occasions, and when you mix together too many colors, no matter beautiful they may be, you get a real shitty brown, and there are times I find AM losing its vivid hues and starting to smell a little funny; maybe we have reached the time and place to define just what constitutes "prog", and cull out the square pegs - at least from SAM's playlist, if not from the RQ library. Personally, I can't stand the sound of Jon Anderson's voice, but he and Yes are all but foundational in the genre and most of my fellow moonies love them, but are there really enough of us who actually enjoy Sun Ra, Magma, Miles, etc. that necessitates their inclusion - would we be at a loss without them? Maybe just the fact that this thread exists and has grown to this size in three weeks, in and of itself says that we have a problem.

[kevishev]

Originally Posted by jrstudioboss

A few songs back, SAM played Wall of Voodoo's "Mexican Radio",WTF!

Yeah, WTF??? I also heard the WOV song play here. More than once. I hated that song when it used tp play on the radio more than 25 years ago and it still tightens my colon when I hear it today. Espeacially here.

I do wonder how SAM comes to choose to play that song every now and then since WOV is not in the AM playlist. What gives? Is it a leftover from some show? Just curious.

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by kevishev

Yeah, WTF??? I also heard the WOV song play here. More than once. I hated that song when it used tp play on the radio more than 25 years ago and it still tightens my colon when I hear it today. Espeacially here.

I do wonder how SAM comes to choose to play that song every now and then since WOV is not in the AM playlist. What gives? Is it a leftover from some show? Just curious.

There are many leftover Gnosis songs on the station. I remember the James Brown song that played a few times a week last year until I removed it. I'd be willing to bet that the Mexican Radio song is one of these. I'm not at home so I can't check.

Stan Ridgway's got some other fun songs. Thais NOT one of them.

[kevishev]

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll

There are many leftover Gnosis songs on the station. I remember the James Brown song that played a few times a week last year until I removed it. I'd be willing to bet that the Mexican Radio song is one of these. I'm not at home so I can't check. Stan Ridgway's got some other fun songs. Thais NOT one of them.

That's kinda what I figured was happening.

By the way, I see I'm now a member of the Red Cross

[Rick and Roll]

Originally Posted by kevishev

That's kinda what I figured was happening.

By the way, I see I'm now a member of the Red Cross

Wall of Voodoo - Gnosis leftover. Just zapped it into oblivion.

Red Cross? I missed it...

[Yesspaz]

Originally Posted by jrstudioboss

Maybe just the fact that this thread exists and has grown to this size in three weeks, in and of itself says that we have a problem.

Yeah, and the problem is picky listeners.



BAM!

[Thor]

Wonder what the music was that this listener happened to tune in to AM on... prob some long lost Klause Shultz track or something... but to judge an entire station on a short span of sampled listening is very lame.