[Avian(Admin)]

Excuse me if I question America's motives when it comes to invading countries to "liberate" them from oppressive regimes. You see, we seem to make a lot of exceptions - like the one 90 MILES OFF OF OUR COAST that has gone on for 50 YEARS. Plus, we didn't lift a finger to stop the huge massacre in the Balkans, and never even considered sending in the troops to help prevent the genocidal slaughter of two million Africans just a few years ago. And two years ago (if that), you, and everyone who is "crying havoc" to loose the dogs of war didn't care two pieces of crap about the poor Iraqis.

So when GW, who dodged the draft with the other rich kids, but then blew off even the meager national guard service he had while coked up, says we're going in to free these poor people, throw in the huge oil connection between GW and the world's second largest oil reserves, and you have to start thinking for yourself - it all stinks to high hell.

We aren't even one bit closer to finding Osama Bin Laden, the newly-reformed Al Qaeda network, and other terrorists with plots against the U.S.

Originally posted by clactdj
Avian-

We already have found a number of missles- what more proof do you want?

We want proof of ILLEGAL missles! All of the missles fired at us and found so far are UN-legal, to my knowledge. We're looking for SCUDS and other long-range missles, which are missing along with any trace of weapons of mass destruction.

But even if we DO find something - that just bolsters the anti-war argument. By going to war, we've now risked out troops, Israel (who are still on chemical weapons alert), and others to attack from these weapons. In peacetime, by letting the inspectors do their work, Saddam would've been disarmed, thousands of Iraqis would still be alive to go back to thier families, and you wouldn't see grieving parents of young lives barely begun here in America.

There is a lot of intelligence information that has yet to be released until our agents are out of harm's way. If you are intellectually honest, you will say "I was wrong" when the chemical weapons and nukes are uncovered. Based on your comments, though, I don't think you WANT to be honest.

I haven't seen one post here dealing with the facts and arguments laid forth here. All I see posted here use words like "weenies" and "Kum Ba Ya". Again, if there ARE WMD, you've PROVEN the anti-war argument - it all could've been done peacefully, and without killing thousands.

Perhaps you would've preferred Saddam be left in power so the FRENCH could sell him more military equipment, especially equipment for manufacturing nukes? We have that information.

I don't think you want to get into a discussion about financially and militarily helping what evolved into evil, corrupt regimes. No one has done more of that than the U.S.A. Afghanastan? Iraq in the 80s? Panama? Come ON! And what information are you referringto EXACTLY when it comes to French equipment to build nukes??

The suffering of Iraqi citizens at the hands of coalition forces is sad. The freedom and stability that will result from our actions is a cause for rejoicing and celebration. Saddam killed many more innocent people than we have come close to hurting. Saddam also killed Christians simply because they were Christians. I somehow get the feeling that doesn't bother you either..

Freedom and stability? From the occupation by the UNITED STATES in the MIDDLE EAST? I think anyone who knows anything about that region would laugh at that statement. No one is hated more in the middle east than the United States and Israel. To suggest that our military presence and occupation is going to calm things down is ludicrous. Osama bin Laden started his crusade against us because we stationed troops in Saudi Arabia to fight Iraq the first time! Stability? Freedom? I couldn't think of a better way to start World War III!

The United States was founded with the Declaration of INdepence, not the U.N. Declaration. We have a right to act in our own best interests. I believe we have, and I believe this will cause other nations to respect us. We should never have to stoop to bribing other nations to do what is right. If that is what they require, then they are NOT allies.

Almost all of our allies from the last Gulf War told us that this was wrong. So did the rest of the free world. We're the odd one out, here. We're the "rogue nation." And we're wrong.

Call yourself a patriot if you want. The fact of the matter is that Patriots back the plan of their Commander-in-Chief. [/b]]

That's the silliest statement I may have ever read. Republicans were talking about impeaching Clinton over the bombing in Kosovo! Protesting the vietnam war was the most American thing you could do in the 60s and 70s (and popular culture has glorified that protest as right and just). I'm all red, white and blue, baby, and it is my DUTY as an American to raise my voice in protest for this war, or any other stupid and dangerous course of action this country takes. And there are millions and millions of us.

Avian