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Old 04-09-2003, 08:41 PM
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Again, I respect everyone's opinion, and love all you guys. But when challenged, I'll defend my viewpoint on this subject vigorousley. Debate team all over again, eh? So...

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Originally posted by clactdj
<<Could he have been disarmed peacefully? Of course>>

Hey Avian-

"It's NOT refreshing to see such a naive opinion about world politics expressed,
so stop confusing YOUR opinion with a well-reasoned one."

Perhaps you would rather see Kurds and opposers continue to be tortured by acid bath, plastic shredder, and other creative forms of extreme torture. Why don't you just say it- you hate this war because it makes President Bush look like the true leader he is, and makes the previous administration (and their entire party) look like the weenies they truly are.
Are we talking about the same leader who goes to bed at 10 every night?

According to Bush, we didn't go in there to save Iraqis. We went in there because there were supossed weapons of mass destruction in there - because Saddam was not disarming. And that he was "threatening" to use those supposed weapons on us. So NOW the reason was to wrestle down a brutal dictatorship? Which was it? Both? The reasons to invade Iraq change so constantly, that it has baffled the entire international community, including America itself.

Because if we're in the business of wrestling down corrupt, inhumane regimes like Saddam's, then you should prepare to invade Iran, Syria, Libya, China (talk about human rights violations!), North Korea, and a few others. And that's World War III, folks. Really. And WE would be the agressors. And if we went in to destroy this regime in teh anme of saving those poor Iraqis, what does this say about the Reagan and Bush administration, who let him get away with gassing his own people, and commiting these atrocities for decades? Why are there pictures of Donald Rumsfeld and George Bush shaking hands with Saddam during this period? So maybe you can answer again - why are we there when the huge majority of Iraq, and the rest of the region and the planet DO NOT WANT US THERE? There may have been about a thousand people and LOOTERS in the streets today. But where were the other 5 million residents of Baghdad?

Okay - maybe the reason WAS weapons of mass destruction after all. We're still waiting to see these weapons of mass destruction, BTW. The so-called evidence has been hyped, manipulated, misrepresented in a snowjob of epic international proportions. Any link to Al Qaeda is essentialy non existent - even the white house essentially admits to that (but it didn't stop them from using it as a scare tactic). Still waiting after all this time to see these weapons (or any SCUD missiles for that matter).

All of this could've been done peacefully, and we could've saved a lot of innocent and brave lives that way, wile saving our resources and world reputation for real defense. The rest of the world can see it. I'm sure you'd feel differently if it was your 5 year old lying dead with a piece of a coalition bomb stuck in her skull.

It didn't have to be this way. We were wrong.

Avian