[moses]

I introduced a friend of mine to Phish a while back and he said, "sounds like what the Grateful Dead would do if they stopped touring long enough to practice." Umphrey's McGee is a step beyond Phish at their best, IMHO. The arrangements in the songs are much more complex than most of what Phish accomplished.

That said, there's some stuff on Phish's Junta and Rift that are just great in a "how'd they pull that off?" sort of way.