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PlayingTheFool 08-26-2003 04:34 AM

Your top 5 favorite Pink Floyd tracks!!!
 
Since it is 2:31AM here in California & bored, I am going to ask you fellow members to post your top 5 favorite Pink Floyd tracks!

Here are mine(Though I am going to leave off SOOO many gems!)

1.Main Theme
2.Dogs
3.Echoes
4.Alan's Psycedelic Breakfast
5.Astronomy Domine

byzantium 08-26-2003 06:18 AM

That's a hard one... It depends on the mood I'm in

Today (well, Echoes is always #1)

1. Echoes
2. Time
3. Shine On... Part I
4. Pigs
5. One of These Days

Extended Play 08-26-2003 03:24 PM

wahahaha . . .
 
1. Fearless
2. Shine On You Fucking Bastard (I mean, crazy Diamond, damnit!)
3. Great Gig In The Sky
4. High Hopes
5. Pigs (Three Different Ones)

(everything else gets an honourable mention, especially the live 70-71 versions of The Embryo and Green Is The Color, and all of Obscured By Clouds)

haha, Obscured By Clogs

I'm losing it,
Tommy

KeithieW 08-26-2003 04:11 PM

Five.......'kin 'ell!!!!
 
As I type it's...........

1) Careful with that axe Eugene ...... (live track)
2) Us and Them
3) Sheep
4) One of these days
5) Bike

byzantium 08-26-2003 06:57 PM

The Division Bell
 
'High Hopes' is definitely a good track - in the top 10 anyway - and The Division Bell is a decent record. But many Pink Floyd fans hate it; cannot understand way. It's certainly quite progressive as well, by floydian standards.

PlayingTheFool 08-26-2003 08:15 PM

Re: The Division Bell
 
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Originally posted by byzantium
'High Hopes' is definitely a good track - in the top 10 anyway - and The Division Bell is a decent record. But many Pink Floyd fans hate it; cannot understand way. It's certainly quite progressive as well, by floydian standards.
High Hopes is ACE!!! Love The Division Bell, it is a hell of a rebound of A Momentary Lapse of Reason!!!(Though I love that album as well :D )

Powerslave 08-27-2003 08:28 AM

Off the top of my head...
 
1. Dogs
2. Comfortably Numb
3. Atom Heart Mother
4. Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun
T-5. Poles Apart and High Hopes

Rick and Roll 08-27-2003 09:47 AM

From a not-so-rabid Floyd fan
 
Dogs
Shine On
Fat Old Sun
Keep Talking
Pigs

Sure is hard to keep Echoes off...

Yesspaz 08-27-2003 09:53 AM

1. Echoes
2. Pigs
3. Take it Back
4. Mother
5. Welcome to the Machine


Yeah, that's good top-of-my-head list.

ivan_2068 08-27-2003 12:56 PM

I just bought the excelent DVD "In the Flesh" by Roger Waters, and made me recover the lost love for this great band.

1.- Brain Damage
2.- Careful with that Axe Eugene
3.- Wish You Were Here
4.- Great Gig in the Sky
5.- Breathe

Iván

PlayingTheFool 08-27-2003 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by ivan_2068
I just bought the excelent DVD "In the Flesh" by Roger Waters, and made me recover the lost love for this great band.
HAHA! Good to rediscover a greadt band!:D

progdirjim 08-28-2003 12:12 PM

Echoes, hah? I feel like Yesspaz awhile back on the Genesis thread, when he didn't get the adoration of Supper's Ready - that's how I feel about Echoes. It would have made a great 5 minute song, in my opinion, but they drag it on and on and on and when are we going to get to the nowhere that this song goes?

I also don't get the general dislike of Momentary Lapse - while probably less progressive than much of their stuff, I think it's a pretty good album overall.

Favorite 5 tracks - tough call, as I like almost everything they've done, but few really stand out for me. How about:
Atom Heart Mother Suite
Side 2 of DSOTM (I know that's cheating but tough)
Pigs On The Wing
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
Learning To Fly

Rick and Roll 08-28-2003 12:33 PM

Not afraid to make a stand
 
Wow - a harsh critique of Echoes. I agree to a certain extent about the length and the time it takes to move into the main portion of the tune - that is why in general I'm not a huge Floyd fan. That's also why I included Keep Talking and Dogs in my top 5 - songs that show some passion.

But what gets me is that you 'dis this tune and include Atom Heart Mother - that's way more boring than Echoes. And Echoes is a powerful tune.

Echoes and Suppers Ready are not comparable - the only similarity is the length. That's a red herring there.

If you like Gilmour tunes better than Waters (as I do) you will probably like Momentary. That's all the issue is there.

Another inconsistency is the placing of POTW (a simple acoustic #) and the somnabulent Learning to Fly as top five.

Top 500 maybe.

Extended Play 08-28-2003 04:04 PM

Re: Not afraid to make a stand
 
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Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Another inconsistency is the placing of POTW (a simple acoustic #) and the somnabulent Learning to Fly as top five.
Wrong wrong! All wrong! heh

PoTW is unfortunately not ever included with the wonderful bridging solo that Snowy White added for the space between Part 2 and Part 1 on the 8 track. That's maybe one of my favorite moments on Animals, another woefully underappreciated Floyd album.

As for Learning to Fly . . . . The song itself may be more of a creation of Jon Carin, but it's definitely a signature piece for the latter day Floyd (pop in circumspect). So, if you're one of those strictly pro-waters floyd-ites, then you could stand to listen a bit more and talk a bit less.

Think I'll go throw on Amused to Death . . . perfect sense.

Tommy

Rick and Roll 08-28-2003 04:19 PM

EP -
 
There was no mention of the version of POTW by Jim that you stated. If that's the one, OK I can see it.

My post clearly states that I like the Gilmour Floyd songs much better than the Waters. Maybe it is you, Mr. Play, that needs to read more closely and talk less.

Animals IS my favorite Pink Floyd album! Did you notice Dogs and Pigs in my top 5? That's 2/3 of the CD!!!!!!!!

Wrong? All wrong? Isn't this just opinion?

Please don't take a quote out of context like that - you say I must be a pro-Waters yet I like Gilmour's compositions better? Whew!

Finally - if you are defending "Learning to Fly" as one of the greatest Floyd tunes, I am very disappointed.

Extended Play 08-28-2003 05:05 PM

Re: EP -
 
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Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Wrong? All wrong? Isn't this just opinion?
Sorry if that came out wrong. I forget that most people don't know I speak mostly tongue-in-cheek here.

But yes, Learning to Fly is really a great pop song(Course, I still like WYWH more). Guess it must just be because I'm a child of the 80s. Oh well, so be it! I love all things Floyd.

(Hmm, maybe I can do an all floyd, but not the same bands show of EP . . . )

Tommy

byzantium 08-28-2003 05:22 PM

Dark Side of the Moon DVD
 
Anyone got this? I'll have it in the mail box tomorrow, hopefully.

It's a (BBC?) documentary about the making of the album and features intervjues with the people involved, band members included, of course.

Extended Play 08-28-2003 05:51 PM

Re: Dark Side of the Moon DVD
 
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Originally posted by byzantium
It's a (BBC?) documentary about the making of the album and features intervjues with the people involved, band members included, of course.
Man, I'm all over this damn thread . . .

Just picked that up yesterday. IMHO, it's worth it for the extras alone (Gilmour playing solo guitar parts, Wright playing the piano part from Us & Them, Waters doing Brain Damage on acoustic guitar, Gilmour & Alan Parsons going through the mixing and pointing out individual track doubling and effects). The documentary is supposed to be top notch also, but I've just been too busy to check it out yet.

Tommy

PlayingTheFool 08-28-2003 05:57 PM

Re: Re: Dark Side of the Moon DVD
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Extended Play


Man, I'm all over this damn thread . . .

Just picked that up yesterday. IMHO, it's worth it for the extras alone (Gilmour playing solo guitar parts, Wright playing the piano part from Us & Them, Waters doing Brain Damage on acoustic guitar, Gilmour & Alan Parsons going through the mixing and pointing out individual track doubling and effects). The documentary is supposed to be top notch also, but I've just been too busy to check it out yet.

Tommy

I own that Darkside of The Moon DVD as well! It is fanstastic!! I love it! Glad you love it too Tommy!

Quote:

I love all things Floyd.
Same Here!:D

progdirjim 08-28-2003 06:59 PM

Re: Not afraid to make a stand
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
But what gets me is that you 'dis this tune and include Atom Heart Mother - that's way more boring than Echoes. And Echoes is a powerful tune.

Another inconsistency is the placing of POTW (a simple acoustic #) and the somnabulent Learning to Fly as top five.

Top 500 maybe.

hehehe - I was wondering how long it would take before somebody jumped on "Learning To Fly". I expected it, but that wasn't just bait - I do like the song. I did not say it was one of their best, just one of my favorites. I particularly like the lyrical content. And it is not attempting to be an epic - it works perfectly as a fairly simple 5 minute song.

I do like Atom Heart Mother better than Echoes. It's a bit disjointed, but I think it says and does a whole lot more than Echoes. I stick to my original statement - Echoes is a great 5 minute song. At 23 minutes, it's mediocre. The other factor is I probably heard Echoes more times in any single high school year than I've heard Atom Heart Mother in my life - so the "familiarity breeds contempt" factor may be coming into play.

Including POTW was probably trolling on my part, tho I do enjoy the simplicity. Thanks for biting... :D

PlayingTheFool 08-28-2003 07:57 PM

Re: Re: Not afraid to make a stand
 
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Originally posted by progdirjim
I do like Atom Heart Mother better than Echoes. It's a bit disjointed, but I think it says and does a whole lot more than Echoes. I stick to my original statement - Echoes is a great 5 minute song. At 23 minutes, it's mediocre. The other factor is I probably heard Echoes more times in any single high school year than I've heard Atom Heart Mother in my life - so the "familiarity breeds contempt" factor may be coming into play.
I enjoy both tracks very much! Both great 20 minute epics in my opinon!:)

Rick and Roll 08-28-2003 10:57 PM

this and that
 
EP - Tongue in cheek? A weird way of showing it.

Jim - I still agree with your Echoes assessment, in part. I do think however, 15 minutes is OK. It's really just the Chinese water-torture piano at the beginning and the middle that's annoying. Hell, the guitar lead is almost 5 itself!

Two questions - 1) what's the difference between "one of my favorites" and "one of their best"? Whose standards determine their best? If its one of your favorites, that's cool, you don't need to qualify it. No need to "troll". It's just that you throw yourself open to criticism when you're critical of others' favorites.

2) If Atom Heart Mother is a bit disjointed, doesn't that inherently mean it's really a bunch of songs thrown together under the disguise of one long tune? Maybe that's one that could be cut down a little.

PTF - Are there any Floyd tunes you don't like? If so, what would they be? I'm curious.

How come no one mentioned Several Species of Small etc etc etc as a favorite? Between that and Grenchester Meadows you've got one of the weirdest and the quietest songs on one record. Maybe Keith came close with his early-Floyd selections. Actually GG's "An Inmates Lullaby" is both weird AND quiet.

PlayingTheFool 08-29-2003 12:51 AM

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PTF - Are there any Floyd tunes you don't like? If so, what would they be? I'm curious.
Hmm...maybe just Seamus...I can stand the New Machine's from AMLOR! Sysypus does not do much to me either, though I like Mr.Wright's efforts!!! & that is it...I love the More Soundtrack for sure! :D

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How come no one mentioned Several Species of Small etc etc etc as a favorite?
I love that track as well! Not my favorite but it is trippy & fun!:)


Amazing what this thread turned out to be!!! I just asked a simple question! ;)

Rick and Roll 08-29-2003 08:31 AM

Those are good ones
 
The only other Floyd I'm not enamored of is the later sections of The Wall. There are some gems on that record, but some stinkers too.

Extended Play 08-29-2003 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlayingTheFool
Hmm...maybe just Seamus...I can stand the New Machine's from AMLOR! Sysypus does not do much to me either, though I like Mr.Wright's efforts!!! & that is it...I love the More Soundtrack for sure!
Yeah, I've never really cared for New Machine or Dogs of War. In fact, they're probably the weakest floyd songs ever.

Tommy

Hmm, how about a worst prog songs thread?

Rick and Roll 08-29-2003 08:50 AM

A Dog of a song
 
Agree - Dogs of War tries to sound too "tough".

Worst songs by band or overall? Sounds like a thread that may last awhile!

progdirjim 08-29-2003 12:54 PM

Re: this and that
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll

Jim - I still agree with your Echoes assessment, in part. I do think however, 15 minutes is OK. It's really just the Chinese water-torture piano at the beginning and the middle that's annoying. Hell, the guitar lead is almost 5 itself!

Two questions - 1) what's the difference between "one of my favorites" and "one of their best"? Whose standards determine their best? If its one of your favorites, that's cool, you don't need to qualify it. No need to "troll". It's just that you throw yourself open to criticism when you're critical of others' favorites.

2) If Atom Heart Mother is a bit disjointed, doesn't that inherently mean it's really a bunch of songs thrown together under the disguise of one long tune? Maybe that's one that could be cut down a little.

"Chinese Water Torture" - I wish I'd thought of saying that! Yeah, maybe 5 minutes would be cutting it short. Maybe I'll listen with a stopwatch and see if I can get 10 good minutes out of it (tongue firmly in cheek.)

Difference between favorite and best - I could make an argument that musically speaking (compositionally, difficulty in playing, etc) Echoes is a BETTER piece of music than Learning To Fly - but I still prefer LTF. "Best" is still, of course, subjective, but an attempt to objectify it can be made. "Favorite" is impossible to make objective. But then, that's the reason for the troll - to hear others defend their favorite, or to criticize mine. It's almost always an interesting discussion, even if it ultimately goes nowhere (not unlike Echoes, coincidentally.) :D

AHM - a series of tunes strung together? perhaps - but I still prefer listening to it than Echoes. I don't get bored, nor am I tempted to scream listening to it.

KeithieW 09-02-2003 03:36 AM

Early Floyd.
 
Another of their tracks I like is 'Intersteller Overdrive'

I think Syd was very underated. This track really goes places.

On the 'Echoes' subject. I've always liked this track especially when it was used in the film Crystal Voyager. It fitted in SO well with all those waves.

The Electronic section in the middle always conjures up a picture of a lonely lighthouse on a rock in the middle of the ocean with it's beacon sweeping across the water.

Rick and Roll 09-02-2003 08:16 AM

Syd etc
 
You probably are right about Syd being underrated, but my feeling is that he is unduly canonized as some kind of borderline genius where he was really just a tripped-out guitar player.

Interstellar is cool.

I never thought about the waves/lighthouse thing - neat. Another "vision" that comes to mind is "Diamond Head". On the studio, Manzanera makes it sound like cliff diving in Mexico. On the 801 live, it sounds like the Earth 24 hours after the final bomb hits.

KeithieW 09-02-2003 09:53 AM

Re: Syd etc
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rick and Roll
Another "vision" that comes to mind is "Diamond Head". On the studio, Manzanera makes it sound like cliff diving in Mexico. On the 801 live, it sounds like the Earth 24 hours after the final bomb hits.
I'm going to have to take another listen.

BTW: Just taken delivery of the "Chaos Code" albums......excellent band. Also heard "Eloy" today very Tull/Crimson/Floyd sound. Saw that Amazon had the two Chronacles albums for less than a tenner so I had to invest. If you haven't head them before check them out I think they may be to your taste.

Rick and Roll 09-02-2003 10:11 AM

Eloy
 
Looking on the website - it looks like they have a lot of records (there's quite a few before the compilations). When I get back to regular work, I'm going to get some of these! The samples are excellent.

Yesspaz 09-02-2003 10:33 AM

Uh Oh!
 
Uh Oh Jim, it Looks like someone just requested Echoes! (10:23am CST - Tuesday).

Anyhoo, here's my two cents:

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I also don't get the general dislike of Momentary Lapse
I'm with you Jim. It's not my favorite, but if you take out "The Dogs of War," it's a solid album. However, I've got to go with "On the Turning Away" and "Sorrow" for my picks off that one.



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Echoes, hah? I feel like Yesspaz awhile back on the Genesis thread, when he didn't get the adoration of Supper's Ready - that's how I feel about Echoes.
Attaboy Jim! While I completely disagree with you, props for posting your contempt. While it's listenable, I still say "Supper's Not Ready." When I posted that, I was afraid I'd get mail-bombed!



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If Atom Heart Mother is a bit disjointed, doesn't that inherently mean it's really a bunch of songs thrown together under the disguise of one long tune?
You mean like any epic by Rush? :eek: (The Fountain of Lamneth, 2112).

Ha! I like AHM, but they could have chopped it off before the last six minutes.



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I've never really cared for New Machine
I think they're ok if taken as part of Terminal Frost, making Terminal Frost and 8 minute song, then it fits thematically.

Rick and Roll 09-02-2003 10:46 AM

Agree with On The Turning Away. A very pretty song, and Gilmour takes his throat medicine prior to singing it. Reminds me of "You Know I'm Right" or "Near The End" from his About Face album.

Another Rush dig?:p

It's a good thing that we're not in a band, we might last a few weeks before "musical differences" keeps us from completing a song!:D

Actually, an Ozric Tentacles setup would work, with Keith as Generator John.:cool:

Ridan 09-17-2003 10:59 PM

Echoes
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
In The Flesh 2
Comfortably Numb
Time


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