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Top 5 "Classic" Prog albums
Thanks for the responses on the newer Prog albums. I'm sure this has been done before, but I don't see an archives listing.
Out of the "Classic" era of Prog (approx. 1968- 77), what are your Top 5 albums? I want to make this tough, so PLEASE KEEP IT TO 5!!! Here are mine: 1) King Crimson-In The Court of the Crimson King 2) Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon 3) Yes-Close To The Edge 4) Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Brain Salad Surgery 5) Renaissance-Ashes Are Burning |
1. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
2. Yes - Close to the Edge 3. ELP - Brain Salad Surgery 3. Genesis - Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 4. Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn 5. King Crimson - Red I think... |
Difficult but..............
1) Tales from Topographic Oceans - Yes
2) Selling England by the Pound - Genesis 3) Focus 3 - Focus 4) Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd 5) To our Children's Children's Children - Moody Blues. This will probably change in about 5 minutes but as a snapshot in time this is it for now. Merry Christmas to all. |
Please don't make me choose!
Hmmm.... Here goes nothing...
1. Genesis - Foxtrot 2. Yes - The Yes Album 3. King Crimson - Red 4. ELP - Trilogy 5. Genesis - Selling England By The Pound I have to go re-boot my brain now. |
Tough to choose just 5
1. RUSH - Caress of Steel
2. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon 3. Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination 4. Yes - Drama 5. UFO - Flying |
That's a tough one
1. Yes - Relayer
2. Yes - Going for the One 3. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 4. Pink Floyd - Meddle 5. Oldfield - Tubular Bells That's not exactly definitive. |
Gotta include some 3-LP sets:
Yes - Yessongs ELP - Welcome Back My Friends Genesis - Foxtrot Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon Magma - MDK top that! :D |
In no particular order:
1) Genesis- Foxtrot 2) Gentle Giant- In A Glass House 3) Jethro Tull- Thick As A Brick 4) Yes- Close To The Edge 5) King Crimson- In The Court Of The Crimson King Hard to narrow it down to just 5. |
I will allow myself some liberty...
... but I will stick to 5 albums...
Genesis: Selling England by the Pound Pink Floyd: The Dark Side of the Moon Yes: Going for the One (Weird choice indeed, but I like it) Supertramp: Crisis, what crisis? (Is THIS prog ?) Machiavel: Mechanical Moonbeam (This IS prog and belgian and 1977) |
TOP 5 PROG ALBUMS
Yikes! This'll be hard... here goes
PINK FLOYD - THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON (1973) GENESIS - SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND (1973) EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER - TARKUS (1971) JETHRO TULL - AQUALUNG (1971) KING CRIMSON - LARKS' TONGUES IN ASPIC (1973) My God! There are no Yes albums here!!! |
Today's favorites...
Yes - Relayer
Genesis - Trespass Alan Parsons - Tales of Mystery and Imagination Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells ELP - ELP ... oh, yeah Tull - Thick as a Brick ... oh, yeah...:cool: |
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Yes - Relayer King Crimson - Lark's Tongues in Aspic Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Pink Floyd - Animals |
Hmmm . . .
King Crimson - Islands
Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here Genesis - Selling England By The Pound Frank Zappa / Mothers - Roxy & Elsewhere Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed Homourable Mention: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Yes - The Yes Album Gentle Giant - Octopus |
1. The Lamb - Genesis
2. The Yes Album - Yes 3. Moving Waves - Focus 4. Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull 5. Kansas - Leftoverture * * I might have put Pink Floyd's D.S.O.T.M. here but I'm not so sure that one fully qualifies as progressive?.... although I'd sure like to hear opinions on that... ! |
Um, yeah, that's progressive
The opening theme of Breathe comes back in at the end of Time, and everything just flows from one song into the next...
It's so prog. |
uuhmm..yeah, you're right....
it's prog. It's been so long since I actual played this one. Been spending too much time exporing the unknown lately. I had only "Money", "Time" and "Great Gig" (still songs that borderline on prog when taken seperately) stuck in my mind. I just blew the dust off my cd copy and gave it a play, and clearly it fits as a package. Thanks for puttin me straight Spaz :}
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... and 'Money' is in 7/4.
The case is closed... |
The early 70's put out so many great sounds
that it is hard to narrow it down.. 1. Yes "Close to the Edge"- the real epitomy of what progressive ment in the 70s rock scene, it tied with "Fragile" at this spot, a tough decision 2. King Crimson "In the Court of ..."- progressive with bite for added measure 3. Genesis "Lamb Lies Down..."- they hit their stride on this one, it tied with "Nursery Crime" at this spot, another tough call 4. ELP "Brain Salad Surgery"- the title says it all, what a skullf**k 5. Renaissance "Ashes are Burning"- Annie Haslam, what a voice what a band If you want to talk about bands like Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, and Caravan; I believe you need to look into the psychadelic music genre that was coming out of the 60's, these fringe bands tend to get grouped in with progressive rock due to the experimental nature of the music/lyrics |
I think it's important not to confuse the notion of 'progressive rock' with the different charactistics of prog which appeal to us as individuals : Why do I like prog? Is it the long, complex songs? The employment of odd time signatures? The experimentalism?
What most prog bands have in common though, is that they challenge the idea most people have about rock in terms of form. |
D.S.O.T.M. is DEFINITELY prog!
The way that DSOTM is structured it is almost like a mini-symphony. The opening, 'Speak to Me', is the album's overture, with some of the main sound effects (talking, which runs through the whole album; the screaming Clare Torrey, who does it again in 'The Great Gig in the Sky')and the heartbeat, plus the aural explanation of the theme of the album. Actually if you listen, the heartbeat goes from the start of 'Speak to Me', then into 'On the Run', and then when the chiming guitar chords play at the start of 'Time'. The REPEATING of ideas is one of the main points of composition.
The cash register effects are in 'Money' (which was introduced in 'Speak to Me'). The heartbeat reappears in 'Eclipse'. It's a very cleverly constructed group of compositions that relate to a theme. Therefore it is a concept album. Ergo, it is also progressive. |
Yeah, I like Prog too.
Yeah, I like Prog too.
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About DSoTM . . .
I'm glad this discussion came up about Dark Side. The 30th anniversary comes up next month, just reminding me of how much sway this album still holds. Regardless of whether or not you consider it "prog", this is one that forced people to think differently about what constitutes pop. Especially mind-bending to think of where rock could go while not insulting the audience's intelligence.
Keep up with the set lists I'm posting for Extended Play. If you're keen on DSoTM, the March 2nd show should be a very enjoyable one. Tommy P.S. The description just a few back about how Prog challenges form is probably the most spot-on definition that I've heard so far. Good discussion, it's all in your mind. |
About DSotM and Phish
Hey EP, I heard a bootleg that a friend of mine bought of Phish performing DSotM in its entirety. It was pretty good, especially replacing all the synth and Mellotron stuff with plain old organ and piano, and their live-instrument reproduction of On the Run was great, as was Anastasio's attempt to be Clare Torrey in GGinS. They let the audience do Waters' laugh. That would be great to hear if you've got it.
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Don't have a good copy of that show on hand, but I'll definitely keep it in mind for the future.
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Good company
I've just read this thread and I feel like I'm in good company.
I agree with everything everyone else has put in except for some of the King Crimson stuff which I frankly don't like. I'll give five, but given everyone else has contributed similar material I'll try to stretch a little away from the obvious. 1. Yes - Relayer. Close to the Edge is the best TRACK but Relayer is conistently the best album. 2. Genesis - Lamb. 3. The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars (original recording, not the watered down remix they put on the CD version). 4. Gong - The whole Teapot Trilogy, but If I had to choose one it would be Angel's Egg. 5 Oldfield - Tubular Bells. |
new and old
I haven't been logged on in months - I wanted to give you my 5 "newer" prog first (in no order):
1) Discipline - "Unfolded Like Staircase" 2) Flower Kings - "Stardust We Are" 3) Queensryche - "Operation Mindcrime" 4) Djam Karet - "The Devouring" 5) Echolyn - "As The World" "Older" classic prog: 1) Manfred Mann - "Nightingales and Bombers" (how's that for a rarity?) 2) Ronnie Montrose - "Open Fire" 3) Focus - "Hamburger Concerto" 4) Finch - "Glory of the Inner Force" 5) Black Sabbath - "Heaven and Hell" |
Ah! the old "If I was stuck on a desert Island with only 5 albums" question.
Interesting to see almost everyone has picked from the same 15 or 20 LP's to come up with a top 5. Its hard to argue with most picks. Here is my choice du Jour. Genesis - Selling England... Camel - Snowgoose Zappa - Hot Rats (prog??) Yes - Relayer Happy the Man - Crafty Hands Its hard not to put Pink Floyd's Darkside on the list but it just got played to death on the radio. I don't remember the dates on some of these so they may not qualify as "classic Prog. Rock" but hey. Mark |
Definition revisited.
A little while back I discussed a very old definition of prog rock but in retrospect I don't like my use of the word "repetetive" in describing the alternative. I think the word suggests "boring" which wasn't my intent. A better word would have been "cyclical".
I still like my original definition that "progressive" is (or was originally) a technical term describing music that progresses from theme to theme as opposed to the cyclical nature of other popular forms. To me, a lot of the music being discussed here falls under the broader, more inclusive umbrella of "art rock" which includes various other musical forms including jazz rock, some of the more complex hard rock and ambient (all of which are popular here). Under that definition... Child in Time is progressive, Speed King isn't. Stairway to Heaven is progressive, Black Dog isn't. Most of the Gabriel era Genesis songs are, most of the Post Gabriel songs aren't. Awaken is progressive, Don't Kill the Whale isn't (Find My Way Home though, is - it doesn't HAVE to be long). Dark Side of the Moon is, though the individual track on it mostly aren't. Most Beatles songs aren't but Seargent Pepper the album is. Frankly, I think what we play here would be far better described as "Art Rock" rather than "progressive" because otherwise we keep having to expand the term progressive to include anything we find complex enough to be interesting which loses the original meaning which defined a whole revolution in the art form and besides we already have that inclusive term which describes exactly that. What we're listening to here is "Art Rock" which includes Prog Rock as one of it's leading lights but includes other musical forms with high artistic merit, too. |
Hmmmmmm!
I offered what I thought was a reasonable definition of Prog Rock in another link but thinking about it.......who cares HOW you define it as long as you love it and it enhances your life?
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Does it matter?
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But if you're trying to compare notes with someone with a completely different definition then you can get into all sorts of misunderstandings if you're not careful. |
Re: Does it matter?
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I DO agree with what you say. It can lead to serious misunderstanding. My original thought was that since we AM listeners probably have a common starting point ie. The Music that we love to hear, the NEED for defining what it is we're listening to is diminished, surely? That's not to say that you'll like EVERYTHING that I like and vice versa..........God Help us if we all agreed. However, that's a different argument and is nothing to do with the definition of Prog Rock. |
Kill this Horse!!!
We're riding a dead horse. Please, Kill this Horse, but Don't Kill the Whale (is prog)!
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The Horse is dead. Long live the Whale!!!!
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Ahhh, but before we can say that, we first have to define what horses and whales are.
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there must be some misunderstanding
there must be some kind of mistake. I was waiting for a prog song by Phil Collins - he was late (by about 25 years).
Horses are prog, Unicorns are art rock. I apologize for helping to create this mess. I will be more than happy to help kill the horse or whatever animal it will take to do the job. |
Mmmmmmmmmm!
Horse:
A large hoofed mammal (Equus caballus) having a short-haired coat, a long mane, and a long tail, domesticated since ancient times and used for riding and for drawing or carrying loads. Whale: Any of various marine mammals of the order Cetacea, having the general shape of a fish with forelimbs modified to form flippers, a tail with horizontal flukes, and one or two blowholes for breathing, especially one of the very large species as distinguished from the smaller dolphins and porpoises. Not a bad definition of Horse and Whale methinks!!! Unicorns are just Horny Horses! Phil Collins prog? I guess that "In the air tonight" might qualify but most of his solo stuff is just pop pap!!! Time for another argument? |
top 5 albums
Hi..Tough descion,
1)King Crimson : In The Court Of The Crimson King 2)Yes : Close To The Edge 3)Genesis : Selling England By The Pound 4)Pink Floyd : Dark Side Of The Moon 5)Van Der Graaf Generator :Still Life I also considered Peter Hammills : The Silent Corner And Empty Stage and maybe a Todd Rundgren album but choosing one of his best was tooooo hard..:mad: |
argument - no way...
I agree with you wholeheartedly about Phil Collins, my friend! Please re-read the post if you are unsure. I think that's something we all can agree on.
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New here, this are my fav's
1.- Foxtrot........................................... Genesis 2.- Trilogy........................................... ELP 3.- Nursery Cryme...............................Genesis (What can I do? I'm an early Genesis fan) 4.- In the Court of the Crimson King......King Crimson 5.- Sheherezade and other Stories.....Renaissance Iván PS: Quote:
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Well Here's My List....
Camel: Snow Goose Genisis: Lamb Lies Down On Broadway ELP: Pictures at an Exibition Rick Wakeman: 6 Wives of Henry the 8th Dixie Dreggs: Freefall (It's hard to put a label on the Dreggs but I love em!):D |
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