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Rick and Roll 10-25-2005 12:36 PM

Captain Beyond
 
I'm not asking this to create an issue, especially because I like the record, but I was curious about the inclusion on the Moon. I think it's similar to Budgie, maybe the Who, and host of other early 70's great rock and roll that may never (and to my mind probably shouldn't) make it on the Moon.

KeithieW 10-25-2005 12:48 PM

Captain Beyond.......... :)
 
I got into this by hearing it on a Gnosis show.

To my way of thinking it's up there with a lot of other stuff on the Moon. One of those Tweeners. :)

Rick and Roll 10-25-2005 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KeithieW
One of those Tweeners. :)

We love the tweeners!

progdirjim 10-25-2005 05:30 PM

Beyond straight 70's rock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll
I'm not asking this to create an issue, especially because I like the record, but I was curious about the inclusion on the Moon. I think it's similar to Budgie, maybe the Who, and host of other early 70's great rock and roll that may never (and to my mind probably shouldn't) make it on the Moon.

I had this on my computer for months before I added it. It was a little too prog to dismiss out of hand, and not quite prog enough to just add. I finally decided it was prog enough and not famous enough to make the cut. Just barely.:xfinger:

The "just barely" meaning the progressive part, not the "do I like it" part.

Rick and Roll 10-25-2005 05:37 PM

sounds like it was put in by the "Veterans Committee" lol:cool:

KeithieW 10-26-2005 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll
sounds like it was put in by the "Veterans Committee" lol:cool:

Rick, prepare yourself for a visit from myself and kevishev............veterens indeed. Prepare to meet thy baseball bat!!!! :hmph: :deadhorse

Tee Hee!

Rick and Roll 10-26-2005 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KeithieW
Rick, prepare yourself for a visit from myself and kevishev............veterens indeed. Prepare to meet thy baseball bat!!!! :hmph: :deadhorse

Tee Hee!

I own and like the Captain Beyond (thanks to Fremder:rawk: )....you must admit, bands like Budgie brings as much if not more "progressisity" to the table. Captain Beyond reminds me of UFO in the late 70's. Thinking man's hard rock.

And the "veterans committe" is a reference to baseball, where if a player misses the Hall of Fame in the first 15 yrs, a veterans committee can later vote him in. OOOOHHH an American reference misses Keithie! (I'm still 8 or 9 behind lol).

KeithieW 10-26-2005 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll
And the "veterans committe" is a reference to baseball, where if a player misses the Hall of Fame in the first 15 yrs, a veterans committee can later vote him in. OOOOHHH an American reference misses Keithie! (I'm still 8 or 9 behind lol).

Errrrrrrr.......didn't I mention the Baseball Bat?????

And talking of UFO shouldn't we get Strangers in the Night on the Moooooooo (Keithie takes a Magnum 45 slug in the temple):bang!:

Roger -Dot- Lee 10-26-2005 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KeithieW
Errrrrrrr.......didn't I mention the Baseball Bat?????

And talking of UFO shouldn't we get Strangers in the Night on the Moooooooo (Keithie takes a Magnum 45 slug in the temple):bang!:

Only if we have the live version of ROCK BOTTOM!
:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

And "Thinking man's hard rock?" I saw them in the 70s. There wasn't much thinking going on there, m'lad...

Roger -Dot- Lee, was forced to go. At gunpoint. Yeah, that's it.

Rick and Roll 10-26-2005 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger -Dot- Lee
Only if we have the live version of ROCK BOTTOM!
:rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

Which has appeared on a Rickter scale show, I'll have you know....

Roger -Dot- Lee 10-26-2005 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick and Roll
Which has appeared on a Rickter scale show, I'll have you know....


Hrm.

Methinks you're starting to stray a bit from our 'prog' genre. I like UFO, but I don't believe they have a place on The Moon. 70s and 80s hair rock notwithstanding, natch.

But then, I'm not the program director, and don't want to step on Jim's toes (especially with his Martial Arts training).

Rick and Roll 10-27-2005 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger -Dot- Lee
Hrm.

Methinks you're starting to stray a bit from our 'prog' genre. I like UFO, but I don't believe they have a place on The Moon. 70s and 80s hair rock notwithstanding, natch.

But then, I'm not the program director, and don't want to step on Jim's toes (especially with his Martial Arts training).

Hmm...let me reiterate my position. I don't believe UFO, Captain Beyond, or Budgie should be on the Moon permanently. But I think they belong every once in a while, they're fun to hear, and that's why I do it.

I think Jim's answer was right on, I was just curious about the addition.

Remember, I'm only playing it once. You want "straying", there's plenty on the Moon to choose from. I didn't find the last show with other Moonies' selections any more "prog".....

I better go make some money....

Vermillion 11-18-2005 08:36 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
"Sufficiently Breathless" is a wonderful song, musically and lyrically. I'd love to hear it.

black max 11-23-2005 08:20 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
I'm not a big fan of either of these three bands, but I wouldn't bitch if they were in the library (well, maybe the UFO inclusion would throw me a bit). Honestly, how often are they going to be requested? And if some obsessive AM listener starts inundating the system with requests, they can always be pulled.

Thanks,
Captain Obvious

snagmaster 11-26-2005 01:30 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll
I'm not asking this to create an issue, especially because I like the record, but I was curious about the inclusion on the Moon. I think it's similar to Budgie, maybe the Who, and host of other early 70's great rock and roll that may never (and to my mind probably shouldn't) make it on the Moon.


Captain Beyond rocks! I have only heard of Budgie, but I know nothing about them. I'll check into that!

Snag

Michael 12-03-2005 01:02 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Look at the avatar nuff said :).While your at it thow some Mahogany Rush Strange Universe or some Child of the novelty.The only song i like from budgie was Napoleon Buonaparte 3.

Rick and Roll 12-03-2005 10:16 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael
Look at the avatar nuff said :).While your at it thow some Mahogany Rush Strange Universe or some Child of the novelty.The only song i like from budgie was Napoleon Buonaparte 3.

There's Napoleon Bona-Part 1 and 2 on "Bandolier" but I'm not aware of a three. Must be a much later song. Very interesting - Budgie is very consistent and homogeneous. The Napoleon song I like better than almost all others but I can't fathom liking that song and not any others.

kirk 12-03-2005 11:32 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
hey all-

sufficiently breathless was a mainstay of college progrock fm stations
in my area de the 70's. i bought the japanese import around '90 for
the then princely sum of 24.95.

fyi- capt. beyond was iron butterfly bassist lee dorman and (1st album)drummer mike pinera.
here's a bit o' trivia-
SB was sung by "hush" era deep purple vocalist rod evans.

CB folded after their mentor, fellow capricorn artist berry oakley
of the allman brothers died in a motorcycle accident.

switch off the prog filters. this is good stuff, although some tunes
have weathered better than others.

we didn't know (or care) that we were listening to "prog" at the time,
it was all britrock. i kinda miss that.

k

Michael 12-03-2005 12:21 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll
There's Napoleon Bona-Part 1 and 2 on "Bandolier" but I'm not aware of a three. Must be a much later song. Very interesting - Budgie is very consistent and homogeneous. The Napoleon song I like better than almost all others but I can't fathom liking that song and not any others.

LOL sorry there rick if you looked at the time i posted you get a idea were i just came from i stand corrected :)Way to many pop's.I always liked CB there was also another band that was formed i think by the drummer of CB called Armageddon.My brother-in-Law has the album i'll ask em on sunday.

Rick and Roll 12-03-2005 01:08 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirk
SB was sung by "hush" era deep purple vocalist rod evans.


we didn't know (or care) that we were listening to "prog" at the time,
it was all britrock. i kinda miss that.

k

very timely Kirk...

take a ride over to the thread on my show and you'll see one such song for this week. "Blind" from the third Purple record. Rod Evans can sing.

I have some less complicated music but mostly the good old 70's rock to play, hope you can join in ....

Hey Michael, no problem here...be interested about the Armageddon...

kirk 12-05-2005 07:28 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
hey rick-

it wouldn't offend me in the least if
you had led zep, the who, deep purple, procol harem,
the moodys on the playlist!

it'd be very difficult to point to where progressive and these
bands diverged. led zep not progressive? they may not be prog...

we heard all this stuff on college radio in the 70's,
along w/ tunes like "time has come today" by the chambers brothers,
"the revolution will not be televised" by gil scott heron,
firesign theatre comedy, the nat lamp radio hour,
even early synth stuff like "snowflakes are dancing" by tomita.
freeform radio w/o the genre box.

seriously, you don't know what you missed.

k

rick_wakeman 12-05-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
melancolic?

kirk 12-06-2005 01:13 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
nope. i'm just hoping for a day that "prog" becomes a verb again.

"too much style without substance, too much stuff without style...."

rick_wakeman 12-06-2005 06:48 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Depends what you mean by "prog".
Many definitions today.

William, i'll give this name to my son if i ever got one one day.
William Bruford said that progressive rock is not a vulgar tag. And Steve Howe talks about a kinda eternal wave. Rock upgrades, i.e. it is progressive. But it's not dying, and too many rock bands of all sort, even hard rock bands, enjoy using "rock is dead", "rock is dying" within the lyrics. But if there is any rocker, let's say that Neil Young himself said rock and roll will never die. I say noone should worry about rock's end. cause it'll allways be, and the longer the better.
Now, the term progressive used means the bands called as progressive rock bands are the one to listen to in order to go beyond rock i.e. to take a slow ride through life after the glauque punk. Not death.

Michael 12-07-2005 12:04 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick and Roll

Hey Michael, no problem here...be interested about the Armageddon...

OK Rick My brother-in law says yea its true(sorry i took so long getting back to you work and doctors :()Anyway he said hes going to dig the album up and hes going to attempt to but it to disc.
Edit in--
He also said you may like a Band called Blood Rock passage.He said they kind of like sound like Kansas or let me put it another way Kansas sounds like them :)

Vermillion 12-09-2005 07:28 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
So, can "Sufficiently Breathless" be added?

kirk 12-11-2005 01:49 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
hey michael~
"bloodrock" is the band name, "passage", the big album.
good rock band in their time.
anyone remember bloodwyn pig, the climax blues band,
copperhead...?

i say- if ambrosia makes the prog list, so does capt. beyond!:rawk:

p e a c e
kirk

KeithieW 12-11-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirk
anyone remember bloodwyn pig, the climax blues band,
copperhead...?

i say- if ambrosia makes the prog list, so does capt. beyond!:rawk:

p e a c e
kirk

I certainly remember Blodwyn Pig.

Mick Abrahams formed them on leaving Jethro Tull after "This Was".

Lots of Jazzy overtones from the Sax and Flute playing of Jack Lancaster. Excellent first two albums.

Mick still plays occaisionally on the gig circuit here and is always worth seeing.

After "Pig" Mick got together "The Mick Abrahams Band" and released a couple of albums. I seem to remember Rick playing "Seasons" from one of those during an early show of his.

Michael 12-11-2005 07:27 PM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirk
hey michael~
"bloodrock" is the band name, "passage", the big album.


p e a c e
kirk

Aye was pretty much going by what he(My brother in law) told me.He has yet to pull the stuff out.Said he let me check it out when he finds it :).The guy i must say has a very large collection of Albums.

yorksrvc 12-16-2005 05:59 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
I LOVED the first Capt Beyond..uh?.............ALBUM!!! I still put one of their songs on my "Mixed 70's" CD collections. I just can't remember the name of it. Another band from the 70's I loved, that I don't hear much about was: Three Man Army. That was Adrian Gurvitz and, I think his brother. They were an offshoot from the band....GUN (no pun intended) Gun was pretty wild too.

roger 12-16-2005 06:17 AM

Re: Captain Beyond
 
oh man, Adrian Gurvitz. haven't heard that name in 25 years....


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