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Yesspaz 05-25-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by QuantumJo
Why assume that it was not paid for?
iTunes rules, but I hate that to get it to a normal mp3 file I have to burn it to cd, then turn around and rip it to mp3.

That's Apple software for ya... :rolleyes:

prythm 05-25-2004 02:33 PM

- Why assume that it was not paid for?


QuantumJo, you're correct. My apologies to TransA. My intention was really not to reprimand. Just thought it was a good subject to bring up. I am very sensitive about and possible sickened by the commercial music industry, as well as any commercial industry, and its influence on the creation of art of all medium. It’s a bit of a sensitive issue with me and I like to vent to other people who might understand.

Good music, good art, just doesn’t get the respect it deserves. People who stay true to creating art for arts sake rarely succeed and usually suffer a life of financial mediocrity. While ‘actors’ such as those on Thursday night sitcoms make 1 million dollars for 10 minutes(that’s $100,000 dollars per minute) of reciting horrible dialogue (not exactly on subject but just needed to vent). This might be more prevalent in America but in most cases to make money you have to ‘sell-out’. It’s tough to support the ‘progress of music’ in this case. It’s tough to find audiences who sponsor musical exploration endeavors and those committed to the cause. It comes partially down to the lack of education of the arts, which America doesn’t really understand the importance of.

Mentioned earlier in the thread was a Dregs drummer who was in Winger for a bit. He met up with my friend once and actually apologized – “sorry bout that Winger thing”. So goes the story. I’ll bet that’s where the money was, even if it meant playing your drums into a sequencer and replacing the drum track with triggered sampled drums.

This web site understands the importance of art music and provides a wonderful meeting people for people who also understand- dedicated to the cause. In my thoughts the site should be government grant sponsored for supporting the arts. Bush would probably support Godspeed ;)

Sorry for the rant and I appreciate your time. The subject does hit close to home but I am seeking professional help. I promise.

Rick and Roll 05-25-2004 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by prythm
-ce of.

Mentioned earlier in the thread was a Dregs drummer who was in Winger for a bit. He met up with my friend once and actually apologized – “sorry bout that Winger thing”.

Nice rant, I liked it!

I wonder why Rod M. apologized. Hell, Chris Slade was with AC/DC for a while. I don't mind that stuff, it's not my place to tell someone who to play with.

Yesspaz 05-25-2004 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prythm
Bush would probably support Godspeed ;)
Well, they're Canadian, so that would be a bit weird, but maybe he'd support King Black Acid?:D

zvinki 05-26-2004 08:00 AM

Bush Crazy
 
Quote:

Well, they're Canadian, so that would be a bit weird
You said it spaz! Bush supporting something Canadian!?! Crazy!!

KeithieW 05-26-2004 11:15 AM

Re: Bush Crazy
 
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Originally posted by zvinki


You said it spaz! Bush supporting something Canadian!?! Crazy!!

Well he is mad enough to support Godpeed!!! :D

progdirjim 05-26-2004 03:57 PM

Bush supporting anything rational? Preposterous!

oops, did I say that out loud?:D ;)

Lewis 05-27-2004 04:01 PM

I have been a prog. fan since the mid seventies, and I have seen this word progressive thrown around alot, progressive jazz, synth, prog. rock. To me progressive rock is music that lends itself to no rules, unlike many of the bands of the 70's and 80's which followed musical formulas, progressive bands make it up as they went along. So it is really the integrity of the music written and played that makes progressive rock what it is.
Be it fusion, classical, rock, jazz....:)

transatlantic 06-04-2004 07:42 AM

progressive rock
 
hi
I agreed with you. the word progessive is something mysterious and anyone on this planet has his own opinion about this subject.

I have a discuss subject.

Neal morse has make an new cd: TESTIMONY. When you read the magazines and look on the internet this cd is the best album of the year.

The most people like this album because the instruments are good, but when you listen what neal has to say than you hear jezus and god.

Are songs about jesus and god progressive or gospel music?

Transatlantic

Wojtek 06-04-2004 08:00 AM

Re: progressive rock
 
Quote:

Originally posted by transatlantic
hi
I agreed with you. the word progessive is something mysterious and anyone on this planet has his own opinion about this subject.

I have a discuss subject.

Neal morse has make an new cd: TESTIMONY. When you read the magazines and look on the internet this cd is the best album of the year.

The most people like this album because the instruments are good, but when you listen what neal has to say than you hear jezus and god.

Are songs about jesus and god progressive or gospel music?

Transatlantic

Hmm.... I don't know many but I can recommend Spock's Beard-Snow (allegedly not an album about it, but it has alegorical sense, is a document of Morse conversion, and of course Wind At My Back is a prayer).
Try also Iona, the hidden pearl of progressive rock. I can't understand - how can they be so unpopular even among progfans.

transatlantic 06-04-2004 08:04 AM

you don't understand
 
IS THE ALBUM THESTIMONY OF NEAL MORSE PROGRESSIVE MUSIC OR GOSPEL????


regards Transatlantic

KeithieW 06-04-2004 08:07 AM

Re: progressive rock
 
Quote:

Originally posted by transatlantic
hi
Are songs about jesus and god progressive or gospel music?

Transatlantic

The subject shouldn't matter at all. It's the style that the song is performed in that makes it prog.

Neal Morse found God and writes about that but in a prog way.

If the Edwin Hawkins Singers did one of his songs it would be Gospel.

Flame on!!!!:D

QuantumJo 06-04-2004 08:16 AM

Does it really matter?
 
I fail to see the importance of having the music that we listen to, to be so well defined. Is it this? Is it that? Does it really matter? For myself, what I consider to be great music is sonic pleasure that evokes a favorable emotional reaction. Let’s not be overwhelmed by trying to categorize then subcategorize what we hear. Enjoy it for what it is - The Art Of Music.

zvinki 06-04-2004 08:16 AM

I agree with Keithie, the subject does not matter. As a matter of fact, many prog songs are spiritual in nature exploring the who's and why's of our existence. Have you listened to Testimony? You can't tell me that "A whole Nother Trip" is not prog.

Rick and Roll 06-04-2004 08:23 AM

special mention
 
of Wojtek's "Stardust We Are" (Faffers We Are") bastardization. Brilliant!

Content of lyrics does not make prog. I for one, prefer music not written about fairies and fantasy.

Wojtek 06-04-2004 08:23 AM

So, if I missed the point, my anwer is: God is one of the many topics progbands sing about and this fact doesn't change prog into gospel.

Wojtek 06-04-2004 08:28 AM

Guys, you mentioned importance of lyrics in prog. For me subject does matter, although it is not all. I can hear music and even not try to understand what it is about, but the fact is that good concept, unforgettable significance in prog is a spiced-up pork, lady with make-up, wall with paintings....

Rick and Roll 06-04-2004 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Wojtek
unforgettable significance in prog is a spiced-up pork, lady with make-up....
You scare me woj......

A spiced-up pork lady with make-up. Sounds like an old blind date of mine!

Roger -Dot- Lee 06-04-2004 08:33 AM

My $.02US worth
 
The short answer, as far as I'm concerned, is "Who cares?" I judge a song or a band by the contents of its music, not simply the lyrics. Hell, half the time I don't understand what they're saying. Doesn't matter. If it's good music, and the lyrics fit, it's good. If it isn't, it isn't (profound, huh?).

Wojtek 06-04-2004 08:34 AM

And it made me hungry.
My other needs have been satisfied while visiting baker's daughters today :D


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